I beg Members’ indulgence for a few moments as I bring some sad news to the Chamber.

I beg Members’ indulgence for a few moments as I bring some sad news to the Chamber.

I wish to join my hon.

I can see the hon. Lady trying to get in again. I happily give way.

I should be delighted to take the hon. Lady up on that. I know that what she is saying is absolutely right.

Yes, that was it. Getting the data we need to prove effectiveness is one of those extraordinarily valuable holy grails.

I will happily look at it.

It is a real honour to be able to talk in this debate and to follow the speakers who have already contributed, particularly my very old f

I could not agree more.

I am happy to acknowledge that, when families have less money, they can find themselves in debt, which adds to stress and can contribute